Changes between Version 4 and Version 5 of Notes/mmNotes


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Timestamp:
09/04/07 15:49:10 (17 years ago)
Author:
VincentMcIntyre
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add email re 7mm opacity

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    1515   try is at Mopra which has 8GHz of bandwidth and can do dips or paddle calibration (a good summer student project, perhaps?)
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    17    The task to examine is {{{opcor}}. It's unclear how complex the frequency dependency is.
     17   The task to examine is {{{opcor}}}. It's unclear how complex the frequency dependency is.
     18   {{{
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     20Subject: RE: opacity @7mm
     21Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 15:06:23 +1000
     22From: Bob Sault <rsault@physics.unimelb.edu.au>
     23Reply-To: <rsault@physics.unimelb.edu.au>
     24To: <Ilana.Feain@CSIRO.AU>
     25
     26Well ... my guess (without having done any analysis to
     27half convince myself!) is that 7mm opacity could
     28be handled the same way as 12mm opacity.
     29
     30At the risk of repeating material you will know
     31already - but just to make sure we are talking
     32the same language ...
     33
     34For the 12mm system, you have a system temperature
     35measurement from the noise diode. This is a system
     36temperature at the feed horn, rather than an above
     37atmosphere system temperature. As such, it corrects
     38for the effects *except* for opacity. In Miriad
     39ATLOD, the opacity is estimated using a model
     40atmosphere. The inputs to the model are temperature,
     41humidity and pressure. It includes propagation
     42effect models which are a function of frequency and
     43elevation. It assumes clear skies (no clouds). The model
     44will be better than nothing, but it is still just
     45a model, and it is trying to simplify a possibly
     46complex atmosphere to a few parameters.
     47
     48However the calibrator and the program source will
     49be in the same part of the sky: the opacity difference
     50between program source and calibrator should be small
     51to start with, and the residual difference should be
     52smaller still after the opacity model correction. A
     53bigger deal is the difference in the opacity from
     54observations of the flux calibrator and the
     55secondary calibrator.
     56
     57My guess is that you can do the same at 7mm as 12mm.
     58I assume 7mm has a noise diode??
     59
     60One problem with sky dips (which I took too long to
     61appreciate) is that the antennas are only ~60% efficient.
     62That means that effectively 40% of the collecting area is
     63looking at other parts of the sky. Because the lower
     64elevations in the beam are asymmetrically "hotter" than
     65closer to the zenith, this biases sky dips, and they
     66do not give the right results. I found, for example,
     67that the inferred T_receiver was always poorer when
     68the weather was poorer - which implies the deduced
     69opacities were on the optimistic side (note T_receiver
     70and T_sky should be independent).
     71
     72--
     73   }}}
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    1975== 3mm ==
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